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Sunday, November 4th, 2007 08:28 am
What I think of as the "Harry Potter Effect" - a renewed interest in YA or children's fantasy - has resulted in the welcome recent republication of authors who had been well-known in certain circles, like DWJ, or well-known from the past, like Edward Eager. It has also seen the reprinting of some rather more obscure but equally deserving works, like A String in the Harp by Nancy Bond or Elizabeth Marie Pope's The Perilous Gard. I've been thinking for a while of beginning a series of posts on old forgotten treasures from my own collection - not necessarily SF or fantasy, but books I loved that I wondered if anyone else had heard of, that I think deserve a bigger audience and potential reprinting. So, I thought I'd launch that series here, and invite others on my flist or from the bigger [livejournal.com profile] bittercon community, to link comments to posts about their own forgotten but deserving treasures.

My first oldy but goody is Ellen Kindt McKenzie's
Drujienna's Harp, which begins on a day in an unnamed city in what seems to be our world - indeed I've always assumed it was San Franciso. It is uncharacteristically hot, and the sky is a strange translucent pink. Tha and her brother Duncan visit a curio shop and pick up a bottle that the shop-owner warns them has a curse on it. They are instantly transported to another world.

Of relevance to one of [livejournal.com profile] sartorias's panel topics on world building, this is one of the most distinct and well developed worlds I remember encountering in children's fantasy. It has almost a quality of the surreal, with its pink sky, killing winds, geographic areas spreading out in concentric circles from a mysterious and deadly mound in the center. It is also unusual in children's fantasy for its bleak picture of political totalitarianism. The inhabitants are kept in a kind of controlled state of unknowing; asking too many questions is punishable by imprisonment or death. Yet there are mysterious Histories and a Prophecy, suppressed but not forgotten, that hint of "two" who will come and put the world right - or destroy it. This book deals with many extremely serious and important themes: ignorance, real or feigned, the importance not so much of physical courage but of moral convictions. Tha is a strong and believable heroine and there is a cast of well-drawn supporting characters, from the morose Eshone and even more grim Acheron to the delightful "Know-nothing" Zacapoos.

Like Victoria Walker's equally obscure but not entirely forgotten work, The Winter of Enchantment, this fascinating novel is now listed on ABE with absurdly high prices. I used to borrow it time and again from the library, and managed to snag a copy a few years ago at a less than astronomical price, and I treasure it. Just writing about it now makes me think I should reread it again - I suspect it will not have lost its magic.

So now it's your turn! How many of you have read any of the books I mention, especially this one? What are your own forgotten treasures? And don't forget to write a review of your favourite and link it here.
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Monday, November 5th, 2007 01:06 am (UTC)
Oh yes, both of those are great books. I agree that The Gammage Cup doesn't stand the test of time quite as well, but I love the Eric Blegvad illustrations :)
Monday, November 5th, 2007 04:21 am (UTC)
I vigorously second the Nesbit, and the Gammage Cup, and Eager, LM Boston, Elizabeth Pope, and, oh my yes, Beyond the Pawpaw Trees (and its sequel!) - I loved them when I was young & it has been so much fun watching my kids discover them.

Less well-known favorites:

Eleanor Farjeon - Martin Pippin in the Daisy Field (and in the Apple Orchard) delighted me when I was small - and her Glass Slipper and Silver Curlew were the first modern fairy tale retellings I can remember reading.

Rumer Godden's doll stories - especially Miss Happiness & Miss Flower and its sequel Little Plum.

KM Briggs's Kate Crackernuts was a later discovery than the Farjeon, but equally loved.

I think Nancy Bond's best two books were Another Shore and Voyage Begun. I had to struggle to track these down (back in the years before ABE and Amazon marketplace made it somewhat easier).
AS is a YA time slip, and exquisitely well done. VB is set in a USnA post energy crisis and deals with messy, painful subjects with grace, integrity, and understatement.

Jane Langton's odd Diamond in the window (and, to a lesser extent its sequels) fascinated me (and one part in particular terrified me as a small child, I was astonished at how tame it was when I reread it as an adult!)

I think some of Elizabeth Goudge's books have been republished - I remember my mother getting Linnets and Valerians from a book company in England... the internet makes things much easier, doesn't it? Her adult books (and there are gazillions of them) remain out of print - there were a few which entranced me, and many others which left me cold... I think Castle on the Hill, and Rosemary Tree(Bush?) were hits, but I had them on ILL, and (foolishly) thought I'd remember the titles until I found copies!


Margaret Anderson lived for a time in the same city I did - I remember her kindness in inviting me over to her house, letting me stand on her kitchen table and recite Shakespeare speeches, and my autographed copies of her books are the only autographed copies I have ever valued.... not many authors are so welcoming to a ten (11?) year old - or so willing to spend an hour or two discussing their works with even an adult fan.. at least in the pre-internet days! Searching for Shona and Journey of the Shadow Bairins are fairly straight stories (and two of my favorites), but she has a number of more fantasy stories - In the Keep of Time and To Nowhere and Back.. and her slightly disturbing, and my favorite as a kid: Light in the Mountain

Margaret Storey has some very sweet younger kids' fantasy (Timothy and the Two Witches is the only one we've been able to find affordably so far) and some older kids' straight fiction: Pauline, Family Tree, and Wrong Gear (I think that is the right title), and a few delectable things for much younger kids (I need to have my sister hunt these down for me before her next trip over from the UK...)

Two of my husband's childhood favorites (which we diligently tracked down so our kids could enjoy them too): The Spaceship under the Apple Tree (and sequels) by Slobodkin and Eleanor Cameron's Mushroom planet series. Perhaps kids' sci-fi will be republished as they run out of fantasy titles to resurrect!

..Eliana
Monday, November 5th, 2007 04:23 am (UTC)
LJ is clearly not designed for posters such as myself - those who every now and again post ridiculously long spiels (usually disproportionate to the actual topic)...

Someday I might achieve moderation...

I wish there were a revival of kids' non-fantasy books as well...

I loved Hilda van Stockum's books - Winged Watchmen is such a simple, powerful book (WWII Holland); Andries is another simple story, but with small, personal challenges - no Nazis! She has a grouping set in Ireland and another in (I think) the US.


Ransome's Swallows & Amazons books are fabulous, imaginative as all get out, but only two aren't straight real-world stories (and those two were framed as stories created by the kids in the other books). Pigeon Post and Winter Holiday have always been favorites of mine...

For the much younger set: Francis Lattimore's books have always delighted me. Her Little Pear books are very special. I think they have either been or are about to be reissued (hurrah!)

I was even more excited that the Milly Molly Mandy stories (or at least selections) are readily available now... My mother did me an injustice in introducing me to so many British authors without making sure I had my own copies of all of them!

Although I devoured folk and fairy tales, myths and legends, and a very respectable assortment of sci-fi fantasy, my first love as a younger person was for historical fiction - I think because that is where I found the most vivid world building and characterization... whereas adult historical fiction rarely lives up to those standards.

I cannot, even in my wildest fantasies, imagine a kids' historical fiction book becoming an international best seller and inspiring publishers to reissue all the old treasures...

In no particular order, here are some titles/authors which came to mind:

Nobody's Garden

De Angeli's Thee Hannah and related books

Kate Seredy (especially Singing Tree)

Sally Watson (spunky heroines, rose-tinted history, engaging story lines - and vivid characters)

Cynthia Harnett (Caxton's Challenge is a family favorite)

Esther Hautzig (Endless Steppe haunted my dreams as a child - being a young Jewish girl living in relative comfort it resonated strongly)

Madeline Polland (Shattered Summer is bittersweet, and for an older audience than some of the others, Queen Without a Crown is probably her best known.. she has adult hist-fic as well, but it isn't nearly as *alive*.)

Hester Burton (Beyond Weir Bridge made a vivid, permanent impression.. and is the story which prompted me to track down this author and her books as an adult. Thank G-d for a mother who can take a tangled, muddled story description and point me to the right book! In spite of all terror was another very memorable one... I keep hoping I'll find more than the 6 or 8 books I've managed to collect...)

Margot Bernary-Isbert's The Ark (and Rowan Farm). Post WWII Germany... from the perspective a displaced German girl. First rate (RF is less well written, but worth it for the continuation of the story).


I will spare you all my even longer list of hard to impossible to find picture books...

Eliana



Monday, November 5th, 2007 05:51 am (UTC)
Interesting reading, all the comments. I don't have much in common with most of the books published here. Different regions? Different ages?

My own contender for forgotten-YA-fantasy-stuff-that-should-be-remembered is:

The Giant Under the Snow, by John Gordon. I found it really risk-taking, even re-reading it as an adult. I suspect that Gordon is not forgotten in the UK-- in the US, I ever found this one book. Nothing more.
Monday, November 5th, 2007 06:36 am (UTC)
One I'd forgotten: Amy's Eyes, by Richard Kennedy. A deeply odd book, about pirates and nursery rhymes and dolls and scripture and orphans and treasure. I read it a few years ago for the first time since I was ten or eleven, and had almost the same reaction of baffled love that I had when I first read it.
Monday, November 5th, 2007 07:45 am (UTC)
Wow, she revised it? It's funny, when something is out in print, I sort of think of it as being set in stone. The idea of revising postpublication is strange to me--I guess precisely because then you'll have readers with different versions of the story in their heads, wandering around. If someone who only ever read the revised version meets up with someone who only ever read the original, how strange it would be.

But I totally understand her desire to--at least, regarding the technology.

I liked Enchantress because there were two different levels of alien civilization (not counting the heroine's)--and because of the irony of the one that thought itself advanced not knowing that it had nothing on the heroine's civilization. As a kid, I accepted the hierarchy absolutely; it's only right now, as I write, that I realize I no longer believe that technological advancement necessarily goes hand in hand with more broadminded or perceptive views about humanity overall.

I bet you will end up knowing lots of books that I do not--though i loved British-influenced ones--but I'll love it if we turn out to have a few more in common.
Monday, November 5th, 2007 07:49 am (UTC)
I loved The Moorchild. It made the fairy world so believeable, so real. And the interaction between Saaski and her human parents is just--as you say--heartbreaking. They love her for who she is, in their way, even as they're wishing for a more human-like daughter. And her sense of out-of-placeness in *both* places is so real and so sad, and the way she struggles on is nothing short of heroic. I was glad she found a friend in the end.
Monday, November 5th, 2007 07:54 am (UTC)
I liked those Mushroom planet ones because they made me think I could, myself, build a spaceship.

Can you describe the plot of Light in the Mountain? Title rings a bell...

And the Rumer Godden doll books were lovely. I wanted to make that Japanese house (like wanting to make the spaceship).
Monday, November 5th, 2007 07:59 am (UTC)
A sequel, eh? Must go reread this one, then, and then try the sequel, just for memory's sake....
Monday, November 5th, 2007 10:07 am (UTC)
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I adored that book at Primary School, read and re-read the library copy, and have never been able to recall either author or title (a shameful confession for an ex-librarian.)
Monday, November 5th, 2007 12:29 pm (UTC)
I did not like the sequels as much when I was younger, but I like them much more now. The world gets more complicated, and people are less clear-cut.
Monday, November 5th, 2007 12:29 pm (UTC)
"The timid folk beseech me. The wise ones warn me
They say that I shall never grow to stand so high.
But I wander among the halls of cloud
and follow vanished lightning
I shall stand knee deep in thunder,
with my head against the sky."


I remember taking those out of the New York Public Library as a child, and being fascinated by that world. (I still take them out every so often, so that they won't be discarded.)
Monday, November 5th, 2007 12:34 pm (UTC)
I'd add a number of Ruth M. Arthur's books, which are slanted towards 13-year-old girls, I would say: After Candlemas, The Autumn People, Requiem for a Princess, which all tend to have faint time-travel dantasy elements. And Eleanor Cameron's The Court of the Stone Children, which is probably one of my top five YA fantasy novels.
Monday, November 5th, 2007 04:53 pm (UTC)
Hi Maggie - fancy seeing you here! I was haunted by that book and tried to track down details a few years back - I've never found a copy on sale anywhere, though.
Monday, November 5th, 2007 05:07 pm (UTC)
I bet we do have a lot more books in common!
I'm enjoying writing about books I loved as a child, so stay tuned :)

I wish I could remember where I read about the Engdahl revisions - maybe in the forward to Enchantress, maybe on her website - so I could speak more intelligently about it. I vaguely think she said something about downplaying the "cold war" aspects of FS, and even changing the ending...
Monday, November 5th, 2007 05:16 pm (UTC)
I very much loved Ruth M. Arthur when I was about 13. Requiem for a Princess was a particular favourite! I also really liked A Candle for her Room which was quite creepy.

The first really complete story I ever wrote was incredibly derivative of Requiem - not "fanfic" but the kind of thing young teenagers write when they've just read something else that they love - like Polly's riff on LOR in Fire and Hemlock :) It was about a girl who plays "Greensleeves" on the recorder and goes back in time to the Elizabethan era and meets a little girl who dies of smallpox or the plague or something (my history was only rather vague).
Monday, November 5th, 2007 05:23 pm (UTC)
Of course I have to respond to some of these!! (I so much enjoy this game, *grin*)
Eleanor Farjeon - yes! Those slightly romantic stories in Martin Pippin in the Apple Orchard are delightful
Rumer Godden - of course!! My own particular favourite was Home is the Sailor, but I always loved the Japanese ones. And Holly and Ivy
Nancy Bond - still like A String in the Harp best. I plan to write about that, so I'll restrain myself now.
Jane Langton - I wonder if it was the jack in the box that creeped you out - I remember hating the illustration because it really scared me (though normally I love Eric Blegvad's illustrations)
Elizabeth Goudge - I think her reprinting is a direct JKRowling effect - she has said somewhere that A Little White Horse is one of her favourite books. It's certainly one of mine - I adore it. I also love Linnets and Valerians I wrote about the rooms in them some fairly long time ago...
Margaret Storey - yes, yes! I loved the Timothy books, and Pauline!
Monday, November 5th, 2007 05:30 pm (UTC)
There are some unfamiliar ones amongst these - I'm interested that there is quite a British influence here?

Madeline Polland! Her Deirdre is one of the most beautiful, romantic love stories ever written, but I was absolutely shattered by the ending (of course, it doesn't end well, but I was unfamiliar with the legend the first time I read it...). She also wrote at least one adult novel that I loved, another romance, but I can't remember the title.

I liked Hester Burton a lot, too. My own favourite was Time of Trial

By the way, my mum used to read the Milly Molly Mandy books to me when I was very young, and I STILL HAVE MY COPY!! I'm very fortunate to have had a mum who loved books as much as I do and didn't part with ANY of mine...
Monday, November 5th, 2007 05:31 pm (UTC)
hmm - I'll maybe have to try them again, if I can ever find a copy.
Monday, November 5th, 2007 06:52 pm (UTC)
What, no Geoffrey Trease? I'm certain I learned as much history from his books as I did from any teacher. Favourites were the pair
The Hills of Varna
and
Crown of Violet
- the first a Renaissance adventure as two young people braved the Ottoman Empire to recover the last manuscript of an Athenian comedy, the second (yes it was written later) a story about the writing of the play in classical Athens.
Monday, November 5th, 2007 07:46 pm (UTC)
Henry, but not Geoffrey.

My historical writer was Rosemary Sutcliff - I think I read every single one of them and loved them all. And Hester Burton, and Barbara Willard.
Tuesday, November 6th, 2007 05:00 am (UTC)
The New York Review, I think.

We first encountered them when I discovered that the Jenny and the Cat club books had been reissued (shouts of ecstasy from my younger kids). In browsing their listings (collection? hmmm.. group of books they've reissued?) we discovered 'The Magic Pudding' which quickly became a new favorite with my younger four. No brilliant plotting, and certainly no character development... but the pace and diction were right on and the zany premise delighted the kids. (Our kids range from 6 to 14, it was the 10 and under crowd which fell for this book.)

My favorite Tam Lin retelling is Pamela Dean's... though I wonder if I would have loved it as much if I'd first encountered it in my late twenties rather than at 18.

I can't completely separate a book from the person I was and the way I saw it when I first read it.

That's not completely true. I read Wuthering Heights at 12 or so and when I read it again a decade or so later, the experience was so different it was as if I'd read a different book.

But for most books the shadow of my former self hovers over the page, or echoes in my inner ear as I read. Generally this is a gift. The disbelieving wonder from Children of Green Knowe, the grief which left me shaken for weeks when Thorin died, the enchantment of Fog Magic, the homey virtues in Eight Cousins, and the sense of homecoming in All of a Kind Family are all still there when I open the books despite the greater distance I now have from the books I read. (In some ways this is good. I could not cope with most modern fiction until I was in my later twenties; I took it all too much to heart.)

This thread has reminded me of old favorites I still need to purchase... how could I have neglected to get Tatsinda or MM's repose for my kids? Eeek...

Tuesday, November 6th, 2007 05:02 am (UTC)
I was amazed to discover this year (via a dear friend) that there is a third book in this series: The Firelings....
Tuesday, November 6th, 2007 05:16 am (UTC)
It's an odd book...

Rana, a crippled girl, is chosen to be sacrificed to the 'god inside the mountain'. She has what she believes to be a mystical experience and is convinced, as part of a power play thing, that she is an instrument of her god.

She leads a group of her people to a new land where she becomes the center of the religious life of the community. The later part of the book traces the impact on the community and a, well whatever they called a novitiate.

It is not an easy or a comfortable book. And it is a strange, strange choice for a young child's favorite book (but then Richard III was my favorite of Shakespeare's plays... I used to be able to recite in its entirety... one of those useful and marketable accomplishments).

I think I was drawn to the exploration of the role of faith, whether based in truth or misperception, and of course how you tell which is which... to the, indirect probing at development of self, of individual desires versus community needs, or perceived needs.

Is that of any help? We're unpacking, but I should be able to find my copy and type in the dust jacket description, if my awkward summary doesn't do the trick.
Tuesday, November 6th, 2007 05:27 am (UTC)
There are some unfamiliar ones amongst these - I'm interested that there is quite a British influence here?

My mother had three main avenues for discovering new books: The Hornbook (sometimes she'd get a babysitter and go read the really old back issues at the university library), British book catalogs (I think she ordered most frequently from Baker books - we got so many wonderful things that way!), and serendipity (expeditions to used bookstores were a regular part of my childhood).

...and yes there was a very Anglo slant to our literary education! My mother even ordered old A and O level exams for us to do for fun together (we were an eccentric family!). It is only as an adult that I have begun to appreciate American literature - how much of that is innate preference and how much environmental training I'm not sure.

My mother still has most of the books we had as kids, but she hasn't wanted to part with them! Fortunately, I began building my personal book collection at an early age...

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